This group focuses on the world’s Sacred Texts, encouraging study from a theosophical perspective.
Resources: http://www.universaltheosophy.com/sacred-texts/
The purpose of the Sacred Texts group is twofold. First, it is intended to help students delve deeper into their understanding of the core ideas presented by the sages of human history. Second, it is intended to help students see and appreciate the commonalities among these various teachings. This group will point to the diverse expressions of the central theosophical tenets and give evidence to the Parent Doctrine from which all the sacred texts are an expression in different cultures and times.
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ModeratorTN replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Crest Jewel of Wisdom Part 1 in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 1 month ago
Works make for the cleansing of the heart, but not for the attaining of the Real; the gaining of the Real comes through discernment—not even by myriads of works is it gained.
Through discernment of the Real it is perceived that the imagined serpent is only a rope; and thus the painful fear of the great serpent, conjured up by illusion, is f…[Read more]
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barbara replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Crest Jewel of Wisdom Part 1 in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 2 months ago
Hi Jon,
In my view, I don’t think the point is that the other aspects, like study, service, and character building, are not necessary. They are different limbs of a whole. However, it is Jnana that has the key to open the door to Wisdom. Without purity of character, it is impossible to obtain this key.
A good person may not necessarily be…[Read more]
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Jon Fergus replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Crest Jewel of Wisdom Part 1 in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 2 months ago
I tend to think that this advaita approach, while going straight to the heart of the matter, can often be interpreted in such a way that the individual ends up stationary and not taking the steps necessary to reach the point at which jnana can overcome ignorance, if they hold too strongly to the idea that nothing other than jnana is necessary.…[Read more]
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barbara replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Crest Jewel of Wisdom Part 1 in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 2 months ago
Hi Gerry,
Your question – what are some ways students can loosen the hold of a lesser sense of self – is the essence of transformation. As you mentioned, our identity is very fluid. When we are reading a book, we are lost in its contents. When we engage in a conversation, we are lost in the ideas. When we study a worksheet, we are lost in…[Read more]
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barbara replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Crest Jewel of Wisdom Part 1 in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 2 months ago
Hello Peter,
This is a very nice description of the Advaita philosophy! It would seem that even though we are essentially Brahmin according to the non-dual teaching, we still need to recognize and start with our present state of illusory reality. This is the first step to Truth. It is of little use to inform one who is deep asleep that s/he is…[Read more]
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Gerry Kiffe replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Crest Jewel of Wisdom Part 1 in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 2 months ago
It is a great challenge to change or evolve one’s sense of self. The more we study the more it becomes apparent that the self we ordinarily identify with is so very ephemeral. The teachings invite us to draw inwards and perhaps by so doing we “draw a larger circle”. People inherently seek to become part of something larger than themselves.…[Read more]
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Peter replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Crest Jewel of Wisdom Part 1 in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 2 months ago
Hi Gerry – that’s an interesing question. One of the recurring themes we find in Advaita and in Shankaracharya’s commentaries is that karma (action) does not bring about Liberation or Moksha. The fundamental tenet of Advaita is that the supreme Brahman (Parabrahm) or One Reality is non-dual, hence the term advaita (‘not two’). Separ…[Read more]
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Peter replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Crest Jewel of Wisdom Part 1 in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 2 months ago
Hi Gerry – that’s an interesing question. One of the recurring themes we find in Advaita and in Shankaracharya’s commentaries is that karma (action) does not bring about Liberation or Moksha. The fundamental tenet of Advaita is that the supreme Brahman (Parabrahm) or One Reality is non-dual, hence the term advaita (‘not two’). Separ…[Read more]
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Garo Ketchian replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Crest Jewel of Wisdom Part 1 in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 2 months ago
In many ways people are like children. We play the game of pretend and we invent methods to avoid confronting the truth. Priestly rituals give rise to vanity and are an escape from direct confrontation of the truth. Furthermore they lead to a decrease in self-reliance, and a desire to seek praise and reward.
The Crest Jewel of Wisdom in…[Read more]
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Gerry Kiffe replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Crest Jewel of Wisdom Part 1 in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 2 months ago
Shankaracharya says: Even though they recite the scriptures, and sacrifice to the gods, and fulfill all works, and worship the divinities—without awakening to the unity of the Divine Self, liberation is not attained even in a hundred æons.
Would it be fair to say that one way to take this is : Until we begin to incrementally transform our se…[Read more]
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ModeratorTN replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Crest Jewel of Wisdom Part 1 in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 2 months ago
Sri Sankaracharya
Translation by Swami Madhavananda
1. I bow to Govinda, whose nature is Bliss Supreme, who is the Sadguru, who can be known only from the import of all Vedanta, and who is beyond the reach of speech and mind.
2. For all beings a human birth is difficult to obtain, more so is a male body; rarer than that is Brahmanahood; rarer…[Read more]
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Kirk Marzulo replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Twin Verses from the Dhammapada in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 3 months ago
The idea that a well-thatched roof, which will keep out both the blistering sun and all rainfall, is analagous to a well-disciplined mind, would present the concept clearly to the most uneducated villager. Thoroughness, attention to every detail, watchfulness for even small leaks or weak areas and constant vigilance is needed to maintain the…[Read more]
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Garo Ketchian replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Twin Verses from the Dhammapada in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 3 months ago
Elsewhere we have read that the water elementals are dangerous. We have some good examples recently of destruction by water and history is full of these examples. Rain is water in the form of precipitation.
13. Rains pour into an ill-thatched house; desires pour into an ill-trained mind.
14. Rains wet not a well-thatched house; desires enter…[Read more] -
Garo Ketchian replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Twin Verses from the Dhammapada in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 3 months ago
Yes, the idea that mind is the battleground for growth and evolution is certainly highlighted in these statements. That teaching is echoed in nearly all Theosophical devotional books and writings.
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Gerry Kiffe replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Twin Verses from the Dhammapada in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 3 months ago
Can more be said about why the metaphor of the well-thatched house representing the disciplined mind if fitting?
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ModeratorTN replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Twin Verses from the Dhammapada in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 3 months ago
Last group of Twin Verses:
15. The evil doer suffers in this world and he grieves in the next; he mourns in both. Afflicted he grieves in the visualization of his sinful deeds.16. The virtuous rejoices in this world and he rejoices in the next; he rejoices in both. He rejoices, rejoices exceedingly in the visualization of his pure deeds.
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ModeratorTN replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Twin Verses from the Dhammapada in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 4 months ago
8. Whoso lives, disciplining himself, unmindful of pleasures, his senses restrained, moderate in eating, full of faith and dauntless energy (Virya)—him verily Mara doth not overturn as a gale doth not overturn a rocky mountain. 4
9. He may display it on himself but he has not merited the yellow robe who is not free from depravities, who d…[Read more]
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Gerry Kiffe replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Twin Verses from the Dhammapada in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 4 months ago
What I am gathering from these initial statements of the Dhammapada is that the mind is the battle ground for growth and evolution. It is here where we must pay special attention. How do others see it?
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ModeratorTN replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Twin Verses from the Dhammapada in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 5 months ago
The Twin Verses — CANTO I
1. All the phenomena of existence have mind as their precursor, mind as their supreme leader, and of mind are they made. If with an impure mind one speaks or acts, suffering follows him in the same way as the wheel follows the foot of the drawer (of the chariot).
2. All the phenomena of existence have mind as their p…[Read more]
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ModeratorTN replied to the topic Sacred Texts: The Twin Verses from the Dhammapada in the forum
Sacred Texts Study Group 1 year, 5 months ago
Chapter One: The Twin Verses
1. All that we are is the result of what we have thought: all that we are is founded on our thoughts and formed of our thoughts. If a man thinks or acts with an evil thought, pain pursues him, as the wheel of the wagon follows the hoof of the ox that draws it. 1
2. All that we are is the result of what we have…[Read more]
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