Very sorry, please excuse me, last point and I’m DEFINITELY 100% out for the day, I just have to refute one misconception:
“If the suffering of sentient beings is largely due to ignorance and our misapprehension of the nature of Reality, why wouldn’t those Wise Beings who have overcome that illusion seek to be of aid to those still caught in t…[Read more]
January 26, 2017 at 5:26 pm #4697
Granted but you didn’t reply to what I wrote above.
Okay, then what exactly is the view and position, summarized please?
January 26, 2017 at 11:15 am #4689
My last reply for the day, since I’ve cluttered the feed with too many replies …
what you said here Peter … signifies the eternal gulf or gap between us Vedantins (the universal majoritarian mainstream Perennial Philosophy) and the Mahayanist movement that sort of broke off and went its own way ……[Read more]
“if the underlying Reality is boundless, eternal and infinite then the potentiality for all life to unfold and develop can also be infinite and without limit.”
IF the universal, infinite, indivisible Eternal Reality is the universal, infinite, indivisible Eternal Reality … THEN it is already itself eternally, universally, infinitely and…[Read more]
January 26, 2017 at 5:58 am #4687
This is where Buddhist reasoning gets to a place that just does not compute for me.
I’ll just have to assume it computes for you.
Now, as for myself, thank God that my goal is the mainstream majoritarian goal: Absolute-without-form. Ah, so simpl and easy that way. “Simplify! Simplify!…[Read more]
also term “universal brotherhood” … which in essence designates universal unity at the level of science and metaphyics … does not strictly connote the Boddhisatva Ideal as Shantideva specifically formulated it.
Peter, my claim was not that Shantideva created the B Ideal, one only has to read the Diamond Sutra to be aware he didn’t. My argument was (and if you can source earlier texts to the contrary I’d be happy), that he is the earliest person I am aware of that explicitly and emphatically gave it a very specific formal twist that I disagree with on…[Read more]
Well lets focus in on a specific question, Tibetan Buddhism is not HPB Theosophy, and HPB Theosophy is not Tibetan Buddhism, nor is HPB Theosophy identical to Perfect Truth or Wisdom, and indeed Perfect Truth or Wisdom is not identical to HPB Theosophy.
Furthermore, Tibetan Buddhism is a wild assortment of sects and schisms. On top of that, it is…[Read more]
Greetings Peter. And what are those esoteric doctrines referred to exactly? If I’m understanding correctly, what is being said here is, the doctrines known to us of the Madhyamika school, HPB is negating here … and she’s saying there is an “esoteric” doctrine kept secret. Most Buddhists I think everywhere, and scholars, would find this suspect…[Read more]
Universal salvation is not an ideal, it seems to me, that is sustained by a given set of boddhisatvas, that are eternally attempting to sustain and actualize it … one adds ones fuel to the Fire of that endless end … but eventually others sets of boddhisatvas replace you … and you’re service in that role eventually gets exhausted and…[Read more]
Samantha, but one thing, yes and no … no in this sense: that compassionate action it seems to me is not truly eternal from the level of a given individual … just very long … but one eventually gets replaced by other advancing life streams in that role.
And then one drops form and goes into the formless Absolute or Absolute without form.
Hi Jon, my only issue is one … and that is the eternalization of the bodhisattva ideal at the individual level … my view is that … for those on the bodhisattva path … it is not infinite but finite … that is … at a certain point … they exhaust their service … are replaced by others who take their place … and they go off into the…[Read more]
Yes Samantha but see here: https://blavatskytheosophy.com/alaya-the-universal-soul/
“The Yogacharya school began in India and is part of Mahayana Buddhism. In the Buddhism of Tibet, where the Yogacharya teaching gained its strongest and most enduring ground, the two main philosophical viewpoints present in the various schools and branches of…[Read more]
The bodhisattva stays in phenomenal cyclic existence for all eternity?
Wouldn’t the universe then be overflowing with bodhisattvas?
As for myself, I haven’t met too many supremely Enlightened bodhisattvas.
Lastly, Attar claims that, when the “birds” reach that Valley of Unity, tis “The oneness of diversity/ Not oneness locked in singularity.”
So if Attar is right, the many souls that are threads of the web of the Light of the One Spirit become utterly immersed and identified in that Eternal Ocean of the One Spirit.
This seems to reconcile the…[Read more]
The secrets eternal neither you know nor I
And answers to the riddle neither you know nor I
Behind the veil there is much talk about us, why
When the veil falls, neither you remain nor I. (Omar Khayyam)
Seek your source. Find out whence the thought
‘I’ springs. — RAMANA MAHARSHI
“I saw my Lord with the eye of the heart. I asked: Who art Thou?
He answered: Thou.” (Mansur al-Hallaj, the Crucified)
My question in regards to this, is this though: if the Infinite One exists, then everything is the Infinite One; and if everything is the Infinite One, then nothing is outside of or distinct or apart from the Infinite One (which follows from the definition of the designation “Infinite One”) … and from this necessarily follows the deduction that:…[Read more]
But there are some points of disagreement that need to be shed out also.
For a start, the messianic bodhisattva “ideal”, which was concocted by the rather overheated and overzealous imagination of that poet mythologist moralizing-extremist Shantideva … and consequently infected the minds of some of the Tibetans, but thank God only…[Read more]
The notion of endless “improvement”, which is a form of vanity or egotism absolutized out of all proportion, is a fallacious misperception (concocted by the impostor elect such as Gregory of Nyssa, from his overzealous rhetorical flourishes based on Origen, I imagine) … based on a misunderstanding of the idea of infinity, which becomes…[Read more]
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